Pushing back on AI campaigns with humans in the loop, with Lyndsey Maddox

Pushing back on AI campaigns with humans in the loop

Episode 229

We need to talk about what’s been happening with the use of AI on Google and Meta’s ad platforms. 

A few years ago, we were surgeons. We had the scalpel. We chose the exact keywords, the specific bid modifiers, the precise placements. Now? Google and Meta are basically telling us, “Hey, don’t worry your pretty little human head about it. Just give us your credit card, a few grainy images, and a vague ‘goal,’ and we’ll take it from here.”

Performance Max (PMax) and Advantage+ are the ultimate “Trust Me, Bro” of the marketing world. They’ve turned “manual control” into a dirty word. They want us to believe that the algorithm knows our customer better than we do—even though that same algorithm once tried to sell me a pair of shoes I bought three weeks ago.

The platforms are no longer just tools; they’re aggressive backseat drivers.

  • Google is constantly “recommending” that you switch to Broad Match (conveniently spending your budget faster).

  • Meta is hiding the “Manual” button behind three layers of “Are you sure? This is less efficient!” warnings.

  • The “Auto-apply” Trap: If you don’t uncheck a box buried in a sub-menu, the platform will literally change your strategy while you’re sleeping.

They aren’t optimizing for our ROI; they’re optimizing for their inventory. It’s getting a little ridiculous. It feels like we’re being slowly evicted from our own accounts.

AI is a great engine, but it’s a terrible pilot. It has no “common sense.” Media buyers aren’t here to fight the machine; but they are there to keep the machine from driving a brand off a cliff. 

After gaining her B.A. from Butler University and working in B2B, she had her first brush with digital channels like SEO and paid search and saw how they could drive business better than traditional methods. That came as a pleasant surprise, given how her sales role relied totally on making cold calls. Bringing that sales-focused grit to DTC, and honing her digital expertise over the last 14 years, she now serves as its CEO. When she’s away from agency business, she is likely to be spending time with her husband & two sons, often at Wrigley Field catching a ball game.

Let’s go to Chicago, to meet Lyndsey Maddox

Timestamp Chapters

00:00 Intro

02:05 Lyndsey on whether experts still matter

04:51 PMax Leads and Nuance

09:55 Honest Forecasting with Clients

15:41 Humans in the Loop

24:22 Agency Size and Fit

30:00 Connecting with Lyndsey



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Shownotes

Lyndsey’s agency,  Digital Third Coast

Lyndsey on LinkedIn

Paid Traffic for Non-Profits, with Sean Moher

Paid Traffic for Non-Profits, with Sean Moher

Episode 227

How do you amplify a message when you can’t lean on traditional justifications like “because we’ll make a profit out of this”?

In the for-profit world, the justification for marketing spend is straightforward: you put money in to get more money out. But how do you amplify a message when you can’t lean on traditional bottom-line justifications? For non-profits, associations, and social enterprises, the “profit motive” is replaced by a mission, yet the fundamental challenge remains identical—you must find and keep your “customers,” whether they are donors, members, or beneficiaries.

Marketing in the non-profit sector isn’t just about “pulling heartstrings”; it is about solving a business problem using the same tools as the private sector. Whether you are a plumber looking for a lead or a foundation looking for a donor, revenue is the common denominator that keeps the lights on.

In this episode, we explore how organizations can move beyond “waiting to be found” by using paid traffic as an accelerant. We will dive into why Mission-Based organizations should look at paid Traffic. Specifically The Google Ad Grant program. 

Whether you are a for-profit marketer looking to apply your skills to a “3-dimensional” cause or a non-profit leader ready to fill your funnel, it’s time to stop treating marketing as an afterthought and start treating it as a vital utility.

Our guest is a marketing consultant who supports both for-profit and non-profit local service organizations. Through his agency, Harvest Demand, he blends smart digital strategies with practical storytelling to help these organizations grow. He also brings experience in search and AI optimization, as well as leveraging digital advertising, including managing ad grants for non-profits. In other words, Sean’s all about making a real impact for a variety of organizations.

Let’s talk with Sean Moher.

Timestamps/chapters:

00:00 Intro

01:41 Sean defines the Nonprofit Landscape

02:24 What Is Marketing Without Profit? “Finding and Keeping Customers”

03:13 The 3-Party Value Exchange: Mission-Based Value Beyond Transactions

07:06 Emotion vs. Action: Telling Stories That Still Drive Donations

08:02 Measurement Reality Check: Analytics, Funnels & the Awareness Gap

10:39 Why Paid Traffic Matters: Stop Waiting to Be Found

11:34 Google Ad Grant 101: $10K/Month in Search Ads (and Why It’s Not Magic)

14:01 Rules, “Loopholes” & Eligibility: What You Can (and Can’t) Advertise

15:54 Grant Limitations & Strategy: CPC Caps, Leftover Inventory & Testing in Parallel

18:20 AI as a Utility: Faster Research, Better Campaigns & Knowing Your Donor Avatar

23:34 Doing Pro Bono the Smart Way: Aligning with Interests, Boards & Real Impact

26:28 Where to Find Sean + Final Takeaways



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People and concepts mentioned in the show:

Sean’s agency: Harvest Demand

Sean on LinkedIn

How Non Profits & Charities Raise Awareness, Free Traffic & Funding From AI + Google Search

Harvest Demand Google Ad Grant Quick Guide

Brandjitsu, with Michael Dargie

BrandJitsu, with Michael Dargie

Episode 221

Is your Brand truly memorable? Would a person who bought from you a year ago be able to recall your name or say what they found compelling about you? The reality is that a lot of brands are instantly forgettable. 

You don’t have to wallow in a world of Meh – you can turn your brand into something memorable – we’re going to hear a process that’s been codified in a book that came out in 2025 called BrandJitsu. . 

Listen in as we delve into the book’s process, which begins not with a funnel but with a Loop we’ve got to Embrace. We’ll hear how to plumb the depths of our brand by thinking of it as an Iceberg. Lastly, we’ll drill into a brand’s DNA to find out how we can spread its unique outlook. 

Our guest was tired of working with brands that felt like they were screaming into the void, so he designed a process that let customers feel, remember, and advocate for a  brand. He honed his methodology as a creative director, and founded the brand agency called Make More Creative to help brands that had this problem solve it outright.

He is also Host of TheRebelRebelPodcast and Speaker and mentor for the Canadian Trade Accelerator Program. Let’s go to Calgary Alberta to speak with Michael Dargie. 



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Chapter/Timestamps

0:00:00 Introducing BrandJitsu

0:11:42 Why Your Brand Needs a Loop, Not Just a Funnel: Customer as Hero

0:19:32 Diving Deep: Uncovering Your Brand’s DNA with the Iceberg Metaphor

0:31:53 Beyond ICPs: Using Data and Archetypes for Effective Brand Targeting

0:43:52 Learn More: Worksheets and Michael’s other pursuits

Persons, Products mentioned in this episode

Michael on LinkedIn

Michael on Instagram

Michael’s personal site

The book “BrandJitsu”

His Make More Creative agency

He is also Host of TheRebelRebelPodcast

Temet Nosce – Latin for “Know Thyself”

Phil Knight book “Shoe Dog”

Your brand's Iceberg